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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Wow, that is so interesting about Polio!! Why don't things like that make the headlines I wonder?!

What do you know about Tetanus?  I have read the chapter about it in "The Vaccination Bible" which basically says that if you clean a wound out properly you won't get tetanus.  But it is the one I have almost been scaremongered into having as tetanus is apparantly rife in cornwall and we spend a lot of time on a friends farm, and a friend of a friend has it and suffers terribly as a result.  GP's don't offer tetanus on it's own, unless it's a booster after you've had an injury, which apparantly doesn't work until a few weeks later, so what's the point of that anyway? I'm not too worried about it anymore but I went through a stage of checking Erin for puncture wounds everytime we left the farm...  Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's lovely to be able to talk to others about these things!  I've not really come across many others families who don't vaccinate so it's a real blessing.  Thank you!

Aside from this my other favourite thing for when I feel all alone is reading The Mother Magazine.  Love it!

No I don't feel nosodes are important at all - I only had them because being a first time mum and feeling rather insecure about the whole thing (and having had a barrage of accusations of being "selfish, thoughtless" etc) I felt I wanted to "do something" although of course breastfeeding and giving Tate mostly living organic raw fruit and vegetables is something I feel has been fantastic.

If you are worried about going on holidays the Vaccine Awareness Network (Joanna) is wonderful to contact!  She once got me through one of the hardest periods of NHS bullying I went through with Tate just by sending me a few emails.  She would recommend lots of vitamin C and buying only bottled water and boiling it before drinking anyway I think.  Can't remember fully but do contact her.  She's wonderful!

There's a protest against mandatory vaccinations in London in October that she is organising by the way.  I don't know if anyone has heard of Jane Burgermeister, the journalist who has filed criminal charges against the WHO, the UN etc for the manufacturing of Swine Flu and also for having the intent to commit mass murder through the mandatory vaccines!  It's an interesting story if you've not seen it yet.

Sometimes I get really down about the world we live in because it seems there are powers who wish to deceive us, attack our children and make us all as unhealthy as possible for profit!  CODEX ALIMENTARIUS for example apparently comes into effect in 5 months which will ban most supplements (well all of those in doses that will be beneficial anyway) and lots of organic farming... corporations like Monsanto wanting to own all the seeds in the world while pushing GMO foods... oh.... the list never ends.

What I would like to do is find a community of like minded families who are into natural immunity, full term breastfeeding, homeschooling and natural living!  I'd be there in a minute!  :0)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject: october Reply with quote

HI Michelle
Please could you update me on the anti vaccine rally as it comes available in terms of when and where, we need to organise busloads!!  Even parents who have children vaccinated should be forewarned that it breaches human rights to make it mandatory.  It is "mandatory" in the states, but there are religious and moral exemptions allowed, but most parents get bullied to death over it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the info Michelle...so glad to discover the Vaccine Awareness Network...I too am beginning to feel less alone in this, which is wonderful!

Some articles I found on the swine flu vaccines

http://truth11.wordpress.com/2009...n-to-mandatory-swine-flu-vaccine/

Youtube interview with Jane Burgermeister http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhGoubc2ygg

http://www.naturalnews.com/026503_pandemic_swine_flu_bioterrorism.html

Details on vaccine protest in London:

http://holyhormones.com/vaccinati...ination-to-be-held-at-parliament/

If I can catch a lift with someone, I'm there!!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's incredible isn't it!  What craziness!

Don't get bogged down with the fear though - that is what they want.  When you are in fear you can't think straight.  

When you remain calm and positive everything is clearer and you know how to be in the world!

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Anne Thomas



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Sharon

I know what you mean about not being able to afford homeopathy or herbalism - or any other therapy for that matter.  It's a 2-sided coin really: if they become regulated and integrated into the NHS they would (I assume) be free to all patients; but on the other side there is a very high cost of regulation in natural therapies having to confirm to a system which has completely different principles.

In theory you can now get homeopathy or osteopathy on the NHS, but in practise it's not that easy.  I wonder if either Helen or the resident osteopath (sorry don't have your name in my head at the moment) have managed to get any referrals.  The British Association of Homeopaths has a campaign to promote referrals, but they seem to be closely linked to the Faculty of Homeopaths, which I believe is an organisation consisting of doctors who have trained in homeopathy.  They believe in vaccination.  My vet (or she used to be my vet) offered homeopathy, but she always went for the drugs first and often had to be pushed into offering remedies.

Having said all that, I do strongly feel that if you don't want to use allopathic medicine, it's a good plan to have a back-up in place so that in the event of illness you are not running around being stressed and trying to self-treat, or being drawn back into a system you aren't happy with.  After a roof over your head, and good healthy food, a health system you are happy with has to be a priority I believe.  I often suggest to people to start saving 5-10 per month into a 'health' piggy bank and once you have sufficient get an appointment with either a homeopath or herbalist depending on your preference and who is available locally.  They will often do concessions for family appointments.  Once you have been through an initial set of appointments, you won't necessarily need to see them any more often than you might normally want to see a doctor - ie when something is wrong - or perhaps for an annual review.  If you keep saving your money, you should be able to cover these appointments.  Remedies are usually included in the cost of the consultation and you can then rest easier when there is illness.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello - I'm new to this...  

This made interesting reading to me.  My husband and I have chosen not to vaccinate our 8 month old baby boy.  I still feel as though I have much to learn about this + at times feel uneasy with the decision because it seems so against the grain of everything we have been taught and brought up knowing + believing.  My hubby felt really strongly about not vaccinating + he no longer takes up vaccinations himself.  We wanted to be united in our decision and so I have read up enough to convince me in my heart that this is the right decision.  So far he is a healthy + happy little boy and I've had no reason to doubt or regret my decision.  We too had a somewhat awkward time with the GP and felt the pressure and the fear.  Its good to know there are others out there making the same choice - it can sometimes feel like a lonely place.  Anyway I'm going to look up your links now.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are full of wisdom Anne, thanks.  I do need to save up and just do it.  

Rina, 18 months in I still have fleeting moments when I feel I should have vaccinated (like when Erin has a raging temp & I convince myself she must have one of the diseases I should have had her vaccinated against).  But this never lasts & it just shows what a good brainwashing & fearmongering we've had!  I'm also just pleased to meet others who have had the same thoughts & feelings as my own, and am always hungry to learn more.  Glad the GP bit is over...now I guess we have to wait for schoolgoing age to explain ourselves again!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I received another computer generated letter yesterday re. taking my baby for his vaccines.  What do you guys do when you get these - I end up just binning them??  There is nothing on them to suggest there is such a thing as choice it is all presented as 'the norm' thing to do.  Their phrase 'be wise to immunise' just kind of turns that little gulit thing on like you're a terrible parent for doing otherwise.  My heart sinks every time they arrive it all seems so relentless.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never got them (not sure why) but if I did I would bin them. Stay strong and trust your instincts, mummy!  

I also go through stages of guilt & questioning, but it all comes from a place of fear... I just feel lucky to have met people before Erin was born who made me question the whole process otherwise I daresay I would have given her all her jabs without thinking twice.   The more research I do the more comfortable I become with my choice.  

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